Creation + Evolution = Today
A Response to A B Forbes' "God or Evolution, Will We Ever Know for Sure"
Since I am who I am I must ask many questions and probe thoughts regarding the article written by A B Forbes entitled "God or Evolution, Will We Ever Know for Sure?".
Forewarning most of what I write here is theory and opinion - not fact. I am just asking questions and probing thoughts.
Scientists say the earth is 4.5 billion years old, just younger than the sun. But could the earth be older than 4.5 billion years old? Could the earth have been in existence before the sun? Maybe a planet in a much different form from what it is now? I am a firm believer in science and being a believer in science I know it is forever evolving.
Common knowledge and logic tell us the Earth is created from particles of the sun. Although the early sun of 4.6 billion years ago was different from the sun of these past thousand years or so. The early sun contained gasses and dust that were eventually blown away by a solar wind. The early sun radiated a different sort of light and energy which most likely affected the length of time it took for earth to complete a full rotation. Scientists know that a full rotation took 19 hours about 1.6 billion years ago. But what about 4.5 billion years ago when the sun was still expelling gasses and dust which may have obstructed the light, heat, and energy it emitted? It is quite possible a full earthly rotation could have taken much longer - maybe a period equivalent to our current day millennium. Can you imagine a full day taking 1000 years to be completed? If that is the case if God created the Universe in six days these six days could have been 6,000 years or 6 billion years. I feel the mighty force of all creation and the ensuing evolution of everything took much much longer than theologists and atheists try to pin on the sayings of the Bible. I believe a year in earths earliest days was much longer than the year we know nowadays. Therefore, the assumed 6,000 years so to speak would be much longer - quite possibly billions of years. I would like to see scientists and theologists work together and logically figure out the biblical timeline. I think if this were to happen, we would find out that that 6,000 years is actually much longer.
Before we go further, Andra, I would like to state that nowhere in the Bible does it say the Earth was created six thousand years ago. The Bible does not put a date on the creation of the universe. Therefore, we can effectively throw out that 6,000-year number as it is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible or in theology.
Ending this thought. As for Jesus Christ, miracles, His resurrection. You were not there when Jesus was alive therefore you cannot with complete certainty say that he did not perform the miracles professed in the Bible. For all we know these miracles could be theoretical or symbolic. Same with the resurrection of Jesus, you were not there, therefore you cannot state with complete assuredness that he did not rise from the dead. We simply do not know, do we? There are still so many unexplained mysteries in life, nature, science, history and so forth. We still have many unanswered questions therefore it is hard to say that one thing happened and the other didn't.
You ask the question, "Where did God come from?" Maybe there are some things in the universe, in the beyond that we are not meant to know and may never know.
It is said that God created humans in "his" likeness. To be honest we do not know what God's likeness is/was nor do we know what man's earliest form was. Could God's likeness be that of an intelligent cellular organism? Is it possible that the beginning of humankind was some sort of cellular organism buried in the dirt? Could it be that the Bible is filled with stories of symbolism? Could it be that some of these cellular structures were "Eves" filled with estrogenic hormones?
I'm not discounting anything here as there is way too much left unanswered. I do believe that creation and evolution have worked hand in hand to produce humankind as we now know it. But I cannot prove that and I'm not sure there is a scientist that can with certainty disprove my thought on this.
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I was reading through this and loving it! I feel like I need to go back and reread, so insightful. I think the part that made my head spin the most was "Can you imagine a full day taking 1000 years to be completed?" Now, I am trying to imagine it. Excellent thoughts here! So, I wrote this and mentioned you in it. https://vocal.media/fiction/olives-sv2t0hdt As part of this challenge: https://vocal.media/motivation/james-and-oneg-s-summer-writing-challenge-extravaganza - I wanted to challenge you to write another Earth piece, or a piece about the Earth community, whatever your mind can come up with!
BRO, make everything more simple. Everything is literally a wave of energy or particles. We're more like God's likeness is his choosy, the ability to create your own life. In this sense, you're god, you're creating your own life by deciding. God are like something huge, there's not even a thing called human here, it's simply the vast amount of energy, people labeled them with too many stories.
Creation or evolution. To me it is all in what you want to believe. Belief and faith.
EXCELLENT ARTICLE
It's refreshing to see both sides approached with an open mind. In my opinion, that's the only way.
Great insights❤️😉Congrats Rick🎉✨💖🎉
The age of the earth is not relevant, unless we wish to explore the past species. In my view we should focus more on preserving this earth as much as possible.
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We know from observations of protostars, circumstellar disks, and exoplanet systems in general that planets forming around a star form from the same 'cloud' of material that the star did. There is next to no possibility that a planet could have formed earlier. We also know from studying the equations of motion of both Earth and Moon that Earth had in fact a much shorter rotational period than it has now just after it was formed, and Moon's orbital radius was much smaller too. Tidal forces were enormous relative to now. What is happening is that Moon is drifting away very gradually from Earth, taking a lot of the angular momentum away from Earth, slowing down its rotation as it goes. There is therefore no possibility at all that Earth could have had a much longer day length than it does now, to fit in with literal interpretations of verses from the Bible. Science and religion are in conformity, because they investigate the same Reality. As a bird needs two wings to fly, so human civilisation needs both science and religion to flourish. That is, science without the 'scientism' and religion without the dogma and superstition that has bogged it down so much. We are learning that literal interpretations are not helpful, even supposing they happened as fact, because as mentioned we weren't there to witness. What is much more important is what they tell us about the nature of Revelation. So, for example, life on Earth came about in stages, one after the other, just like days might. So events in a succession of days is a useful analogy to a preliterate civilisation based on oral storytelling, and helps then understand their place in the world. What a gift! Likewise, 'making man in God's image' doesn't make God anthropomorphic, or let's suppose we talk about an early evolutionary stage, it doesn't make God cellular either. God is utterly beyond our understanding, as how can a painting understand its painter? Instead, consider what makes humanity unique among all life on Earth - our capacity to love, to be generous, just, faithful and tell the truth. Are those attributes 'in the image of God'?
Excellent article, Rick. Your article expresses your views and theories about creation. You are right, that none of us can say with certainty the “how” and “why” of creation. We have the Bible and scientists who have approached this astounding story of our beginnings and that of our Universe from completely different premises. The religious, spiritual, miraculous explanation versus the scientific, logical theory explanation are equally important and valid to me. Just as the purpose of life and the afterlife are steeped in theory and beliefs…that each of us think about and choose to make meaningful to our own thinking.
I love thinking about things from different perspectives and questioning things too :) It's what's always drawn me to the sciences. I enjoyed and appreciated the thoughts you presented in this article. Nice work and congrats on the Top Story!!
Impressive story!!! Congratulations on Top Story!!!💕💖😊
I agree. We can't disprove any theory in the Bible because we weren't there, and we do not know whether the events happened or didn't happen. This is one brilliant piece of work Rick. You're an amazing writer!
God within you to write this refreshing topic of Universe Amen
Hearted!!! Congratulations on the top story it was amazing
When concerning Jesus, I don’t know what happened but I don’t believer he rose from the dead, I believe of at all he wasn’t dead just in a weakened state and believers to be dead. Which was a common occurrence centuries ago(apparently) You are right in saying no bible puts an exact date on the creation of the universe. However if I may enlighten you. If you haven't not already been. Something worth looking into is the flower of life and how sacred geometry is apart of both religion and science. Everything follows a specific pattern. Our cells that make us and everything around us up. Even the bibles story of creation follows the guide lines set. It’s worth taking a look on YouTube at the sacred geometry Chanel. If you can get past the annoying narration.
Interesting. I must agree on many levels
This is an interesting perspective I hadn't thought about earlier. I like that you have taken a neutral stance and kept the tone speculative. if I had more expertise on this issue, I would surely make some comments supporting or arguing against your thesis. Since I'm not, I simply find the idea novel and fascinating.
Congrats on the top story.
Congratulations on Top Story, Rick!! Read and hearted previously :)
It’s funny. I had friends at a lunch last week discussing this. I agree creation and evolution are twin tools. Great job on such a touchy subject
This topic has always caused strong discussions. I have my own views, and that is what they are "My Views" right, wrong or indifferent. I like to Listen to everyone's view with an open mind.