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Creation + Evolution = Today

A Response to A B Forbes' "God or Evolution, Will We Ever Know for Sure"

By Rick HenryPublished about a month ago 3 min read
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Creation + Evolution = Today
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Since I am who I am I must ask many questions and probe thoughts regarding the article written by A B Forbes entitled "God or Evolution, Will We Ever Know for Sure?".

Forewarning most of what I write here is theory and opinion - not fact. I am just asking questions and probing thoughts.

Scientists say the earth is 4.5 billion years old, just younger than the sun. But could the earth be older than 4.5 billion years old? Could the earth have been in existence before the sun? Maybe a planet in a much different form from what it is now? I am a firm believer in science and being a believer in science I know it is forever evolving.

Common knowledge and logic tell us the Earth is created from particles of the sun. Although the early sun of 4.6 billion years ago was different from the sun of these past thousand years or so. The early sun contained gasses and dust that were eventually blown away by a solar wind. The early sun radiated a different sort of light and energy which most likely affected the length of time it took for earth to complete a full rotation. Scientists know that a full rotation took 19 hours about 1.6 billion years ago. But what about 4.5 billion years ago when the sun was still expelling gasses and dust which may have obstructed the light, heat, and energy it emitted? It is quite possible a full earthly rotation could have taken much longer - maybe a period equivalent to our current day millennium. Can you imagine a full day taking 1000 years to be completed? If that is the case if God created the Universe in six days these six days could have been 6,000 years or 6 billion years. I feel the mighty force of all creation and the ensuing evolution of everything took much much longer than theologists and atheists try to pin on the sayings of the Bible. I believe a year in earths earliest days was much longer than the year we know nowadays. Therefore, the assumed 6,000 years so to speak would be much longer - quite possibly billions of years. I would like to see scientists and theologists work together and logically figure out the biblical timeline. I think if this were to happen, we would find out that that 6,000 years is actually much longer.

Before we go further, Andra, I would like to state that nowhere in the Bible does it say the Earth was created six thousand years ago. The Bible does not put a date on the creation of the universe. Therefore, we can effectively throw out that 6,000-year number as it is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible or in theology.

Ending this thought. As for Jesus Christ, miracles, His resurrection. You were not there when Jesus was alive therefore you cannot with complete certainty say that he did not perform the miracles professed in the Bible. For all we know these miracles could be theoretical or symbolic. Same with the resurrection of Jesus, you were not there, therefore you cannot state with complete assuredness that he did not rise from the dead. We simply do not know, do we? There are still so many unexplained mysteries in life, nature, science, history and so forth. We still have many unanswered questions therefore it is hard to say that one thing happened and the other didn't.

You ask the question, "Where did God come from?" Maybe there are some things in the universe, in the beyond that we are not meant to know and may never know.

It is said that God created humans in "his" likeness. To be honest we do not know what God's likeness is/was nor do we know what man's earliest form was. Could God's likeness be that of an intelligent cellular organism? Is it possible that the beginning of humankind was some sort of cellular organism buried in the dirt? Could it be that the Bible is filled with stories of symbolism? Could it be that some of these cellular structures were "Eves" filled with estrogenic hormones?

I'm not discounting anything here as there is way too much left unanswered. I do believe that creation and evolution have worked hand in hand to produce humankind as we now know it. But I cannot prove that and I'm not sure there is a scientist that can with certainty disprove my thought on this.

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Rick Henry

Writing is a distraction for me. It takes me to places unknown that fulfill my need for intellectual stimulus, emotional release, and a soothing of the breaks and bruises of the day.

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  • Vivin Akshay2 days ago

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  • Andrew Scottabout a month ago

    We know from observations of protostars, circumstellar disks, and exoplanet systems in general that planets forming around a star form from the same 'cloud' of material that the star did. There is next to no possibility that a planet could have formed earlier. We also know from studying the equations of motion of both Earth and Moon that Earth had in fact a much shorter rotational period than it has now just after it was formed, and Moon's orbital radius was much smaller too. Tidal forces were enormous relative to now. What is happening is that Moon is drifting away very gradually from Earth, taking a lot of the angular momentum away from Earth, slowing down its rotation as it goes. There is therefore no possibility at all that Earth could have had a much longer day length than it does now, to fit in with literal interpretations of verses from the Bible. Science and religion are in conformity, because they investigate the same Reality. As a bird needs two wings to fly, so human civilisation needs both science and religion to flourish. That is, science without the 'scientism' and religion without the dogma and superstition that has bogged it down so much. We are learning that literal interpretations are not helpful, even supposing they happened as fact, because as mentioned we weren't there to witness. What is much more important is what they tell us about the nature of Revelation. So, for example, life on Earth came about in stages, one after the other, just like days might. So events in a succession of days is a useful analogy to a preliterate civilisation based on oral storytelling, and helps then understand their place in the world. What a gift! Likewise, 'making man in God's image' doesn't make God anthropomorphic, or let's suppose we talk about an early evolutionary stage, it doesn't make God cellular either. God is utterly beyond our understanding, as how can a painting understand its painter? Instead, consider what makes humanity unique among all life on Earth - our capacity to love, to be generous, just, faithful and tell the truth. Are those attributes 'in the image of God'?

  • Irene Economouabout a month ago

    Excellent article, Rick. Your article expresses your views and theories about creation. You are right, that none of us can say with certainty the “how” and “why” of creation. We have the Bible and scientists who have approached this astounding story of our beginnings and that of our Universe from completely different premises. The religious, spiritual, miraculous explanation versus the scientific, logical theory explanation are equally important and valid to me. Just as the purpose of life and the afterlife are steeped in theory and beliefs…that each of us think about and choose to make meaningful to our own thinking.

  • Heather Hublerabout a month ago

    I love thinking about things from different perspectives and questioning things too :) It's what's always drawn me to the sciences. I enjoyed and appreciated the thoughts you presented in this article. Nice work and congrats on the Top Story!!

  • Babs Iversonabout a month ago

    Impressive story!!! Congratulations on Top Story!!!💕💖😊

  • Carol Townendabout a month ago

    I agree. We can't disprove any theory in the Bible because we weren't there, and we do not know whether the events happened or didn't happen. This is one brilliant piece of work Rick. You're an amazing writer!

  • Dhivya Dkabout a month ago

    God within you to write this refreshing topic of Universe Amen

  • Melissa Ingoldsbyabout a month ago

    Hearted!!! Congratulations on the top story it was amazing

  • S.R.Daleyabout a month ago

    When concerning Jesus, I don’t know what happened but I don’t believer he rose from the dead, I believe of at all he wasn’t dead just in a weakened state and believers to be dead. Which was a common occurrence centuries ago(apparently) You are right in saying no bible puts an exact date on the creation of the universe. However if I may enlighten you. If you haven't not already been. Something worth looking into is the flower of life and how sacred geometry is apart of both religion and science. Everything follows a specific pattern. Our cells that make us and everything around us up. Even the bibles story of creation follows the guide lines set. It’s worth taking a look on YouTube at the sacred geometry Chanel. If you can get past the annoying narration.

  • Dan R Fowlerabout a month ago

    Interesting. I must agree on many levels

  • Sayak Mondalabout a month ago

    This is an interesting perspective I hadn't thought about earlier. I like that you have taken a neutral stance and kept the tone speculative. if I had more expertise on this issue, I would surely make some comments supporting or arguing against your thesis. Since I'm not, I simply find the idea novel and fascinating.

  • Cathy holmesabout a month ago

    Congrats on the top story.

  • Gina C.about a month ago

    Congratulations on Top Story, Rick!! Read and hearted previously :)

  • Kelli Sheckler-Amsdenabout a month ago

    It’s funny. I had friends at a lunch last week discussing this. I agree creation and evolution are twin tools. Great job on such a touchy subject

  • Jason Basarabaabout a month ago

    This topic has always caused strong discussions. I have my own views, and that is what they are "My Views" right, wrong or indifferent. I like to Listen to everyone's view with an open mind.

  • Dharrsheena Raja Segarranabout a month ago

    Omggg, I always think about these kinda things too. The uncertainties of these things gives me so much anxiety, lol! But that's just it, there will always be so many unanswered questions where people may only be able to come up with theories but nothing more. A very well written article, Rick!

  • Cathy holmesabout a month ago

    Interesting piece. I think some questions can never be answered and weren't meant to be. Where would we be without a little faith, if not in a higher power then at least in ourselves?

  • Some interesting concepts but any of these situations have to be backed up by facts, science is forever reassessing everything , which is how we progress

  • Gina C.about a month ago

    Super interesting - definitely some points that spark my interest here. Well done!

  • Keila Aartilaabout a month ago

    Very interesting and thought provoking questions. Definitely valid points to consider. :)

  • Antoinette L Breyabout a month ago

    very interesting to think about. Some of the indian myths not based on Christianity have the earth being formed in a massive explosion. supports the science theories. Life also began in these explosions Can't recall what form of life but I am pretty sure scientists would have an idea

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